In his response to Margaret Barker's November 9, 2016, lecture at BYU, David J. Larsen examines apocryphal and pseudepigraphal texts to find evidence of prophets ascending to heaven and becoming one with the Lord. A tradition found in several ancient Jewish texts expresses the notion that humans somehow have a heavenly double or a counterpart in heaven, and when they ascend to heaven, they find themselves, or are shown themselves in vision, sitting upon the throne of God. Examples involve Enoch, Jacob, and Moses. Other accounts involve individuals who ascend to heaven and are unclear whether they are speaking with the Lord or one of his messengers. This may have a connection to the LDS idea of "divine investiture of authority."